May 7
I am surprised I have the strength to write. I’m actually beginning to amaze myself.
First things first, congratulations to all the Obama supporters. He couldn’t have had a better night. Unless, of course, Hillary gave a concession speech instead of a “IT AIN’T OVER YET” speech. I’m not sure why Chris Matthews (yes, I was actually watching MSNBC, home to one of the least attractive panels ever) called it “charming.”
I suppose you could see it that way, despite the fact that she opened with, “Not too long ago, my opponent made a prediction… I would win Pennsylvania, he would win North Carolina and Indiana would be the tie-breaker. Well, tonight we’ve come from behind, we’ve broken the tie, and thanks to you it’s full speed on to the White House!”
Blink. Blink. Now, you know (oh? really?) Hillary’s my girl. But even I couldn’t help thinking, either she’s delusional, or she’s got something SO HUGE on Obama that it will knock the superdelegates for a loop (i.e. he’s gay; he really is Muslim; he fathered a black child).
Obama’s victory speech (in fact, I think he may still be talking if you want to catch it) was basically a carbon copy of every other speech (Xerox this!), but, as usual, he delivered it with such aplomb that no one seemed to mind, especially that big guy in a blue shirt, holding up a sign, flailing his arms, and pumping his fist.
And what was with the troll? DID YOU SEE THE TROLL LADY?!
Mr. PL, of course, ate it up, declaring to our friends, “Our Next President!” To which I responded, pointing to myself, “Your Ex-Wife!” (I’m not sure if this is even a valid threat anymore.) Paul Stekler, to his credit, didn’t gloat like I did two weeks ago at his house. However, when I told him that my birthday’s next week, he said, “What are you, 39?” I almost threw my glass of wine in his face, but you know how I hate to waste good wine.
So here we are. Last night was definitely a game-changer — will she? can she? should see? go on? The party is still split. She has the older vote, the blue-collar vote, the Hispanic vote, and (by a slimmer margin) the woman’s vote. He has the college-educated, Gucci- wearing, latte-drinking vote, the young vote, and the black vote.
Is there really any other way to unify the party than an Obama-Clinton ticket? Would she rather be the Senate Majority Leader? Or would she filibuster every bill from the White House? Stekler was convinced (after a few too many) that Obama will pick Clinton as his running mate. But not Hillary. Bill.
If you noticed Bill last night during Hillary’s speech, aside from the fact that his beet-red head looked like it might explode at any minute, he looked almost… disgusted. Like, I WOULD BE SO WINNING THIS. Unfortunately, Billy, you helped to undermine your wife’s campaign right from the start. You’s a dick.
You can imagine how conflicted I feel this morning. I have posted a sign on my office door saying “No Gloating.” I’m in here with the lights off, feeling sad, then angry, then exhausted, then hung-over. Which is to say, it’s like any other day.
If she’s still in it, am I still in it with her? Or, like most people today, do I think she should bow out gracefully? I will continue to ask myself questions (aloud, they already think I’m crazy) and will report back to you tomorrow.
Until then, seriously, congratulations.
(Cross-posted at Poll Dancing. Who here thinks that TM should just absorb In the Pink so I can stop assuming two personas?)
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“he fathered a black child”
Nice.
seriously, I agree that they may have something on the O man.
too much ‘what me worry’ for the handwriting seemingly on the wall.
/isn’t he a christian muslin
/don’t become one person…just mske TM get you better blogware with at least 4 point type… this 2 point is killing me.
also,
I kept waiting for Bill to have a stroke.
/going for the native american vote?
Why does the fact that Clinton won one of two states yesterday mean that she should drop out? I don’t get the logic. Yes, she won by a small margin in IN, and no one really thought she would win NC but they split the contests, so why the gloominess? I say, press on HRC!
Re: 2. potted meat
Christian muslin? Isn’t that part of a KKK guy’s wardrobe?
You posted at 9:36 PL. The under wins.
You fought a gallant battle against overwhelming odds. Now rehydrate so you can prepare for WV and KY. Can Hillary win the moonshiner vote?
I seriously doubt they have anything on him or they’d have used it already. I think they’re still waiting/hoping/praying for something to happen, though. I also think they thought Wright would be it.
I wish TM would absorb ITPT; that way my friends would stop calling me Nancy for always looking at a bright pink web page.
My friends are very mature, obviously.
http://www.redchest.com
I’ve been holding off commenting over here, just because I am not a pink person (despite being pink on the inside), but today I just have to say it.
I love Hillary. I love the way she campaigns (except for the stupid dirty tricks…smart dirty tricks are fine, but dumb ones — “change you can xerox!”? — just hurt her), I love the way she doesn’t give up, etc.
But it’s time. I mean, if she won IN by huge margins, yeah. She’d be in still, and I wouldn’t care. But Wright/Ayers/Flagpins/Bitter/OrangeJuice/McCain-would-be-better-than-Bush/etc. all have worn thin. Anything else (including fathering two black babies) would completely undermine him and ruin her street cred with the rest of the Democratic party.
I say Hills for Majority Leader.
That way you have three women in charge in Washington (Pelosi, Hillary, Barry).
Hell no to TM absorbing ITPT. We’d have to clean up our language, give up our freedom, become part of the corporate mainstream, and read Burka! (Kidding, Paul. I love you.) Anyway, fight the power, baby.
And damn it, PL. A perfectly good night (Astros win, too!) was ruined by worrying about you. I know it meant a lot to you, and I can remember how I felt watching the talking heads after Pennsylvania. Kudos for being up and about and barely surly at all!
/Didn’t notice the troll lady. Did notice that what seemed like the same guy (youngish, short brown hair) was behind both her and Obama at their respective speeches.
I did see the Troll Lady! I heard she actually lives in Obama’s arm pit and makes occassional campaign appearances.
http://www.austinsoundcheck.com
I like offensive words. If you can’t post them at TM, then to hell with merging the blogs.
Your post is (almost) as gracious as Obama congratulating Hillary on her win in IN. I’m (mostly) impressed. But seriously, thanks for being so (shockingly) humble. It’s (surprisingly) refreshing.
Obama supporters remind me more and more of Republicans circa 2002. What with the gloating and the self-righteousness and the condescension.
You put the “Lady” in the Pink. Great post.
http://www.showlush.com
Re: 12. double tonic
That was a lil’ mean, don’t ya think?
http://www.inthepinktexas.com
Re: 9. Don’t Mess w/ Pink
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HARD IT IS TO WRITE TWO BLOGS?!
Like I would ever make you all clean up your language. Fuck that.
http://www.showlush.com
P.S. I’m giving Roy Williams credit for the margin of victory in NC. The Tarheel Bump.
http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/unc-m-baskbl-body.html
/this is how I’m getting through this
//don’t judge me
Re: 12. double tonic
Jack Ass.
So, I’m young, college-educated and drink lattes with soy milk. But I’m Latina. Does that trump everything else? I guess so, because I don’t want Hillary to concede!
I thought Chelsea looked extra emotional during Hillary’s speech. As if she knew the end was near but was still proud of her mother and the changes she could make.
If Obama takes it, I’ll vote for him in the general. But no bumper sticker will be on my car.
Lush and Groaning:
Really? Ya’ll haven’t been around long enough to know when DT’s (always) being a smartass (every chance she gets)?
As for 19th and 21st, I suppose that’s different from you being bitter, stereotypical and insulting about us. Huh.
PL, thanks for the post. None of us (DT included) expected anything less. Although some other Clinton supporters would do well to learn from you, clearly. I’m looking at you, 19th and 21st.
What does Evan think about changing the TM background to pink? I’d follow, unless you figured out how to block my IP. Nice job PL.
Re: 13. 19th & 21st
Whatyoutalkinboutwillis?
Re: 15. lush & 18. Groaning
Christ, people. Lighten up. I’m joking. PL knows that. She and I exchanged some mostly amusing, slighly harassing text messages last night. (Because until last night she was still returning my texts. Maybe after my horribly wicked comment she no longer will …) Lush, you were there, so … seriously?
To clarify. I loved this post for its usual hilarity, and I’m thrilled that PL seems to be coming around to the notion of Obama. Without holding her nose.
Re: 13. 19th & 21st
At least we’ve got a sense of humor. Obama is a candidate that I actually like and am willing to support AND is capable of winning. Now ’scuse me while I get back to my guns, beer, truck, and elite redneck friends. I get to gloat and condescend right after they quit listening to Rush.
Near victory is sweet, but the pantsuit lady hasn’t sung yet.
Re: 20. Lurkette
Or what SHE said.
Sheesh!
Re: 16. Pink Lady
I’m sorry, I thought it was just a mouse click or something. Or is that drinking thing, you have to drink twice as much or twice as often?
I have contributed to Obama since he won his Senate seat. I didn’t think there was any way in hell I would support Hillary if she won. Mainly I did not like the thought having two families control the White house or VP seat for 38 years of my life. But what she has done in sticking with this and her campaigning, I will support her if she wins the nomination.
Re: 23. double tonic
It’s cool. Look, I’ve been for Obama since his speech at the 04 convention. But like most people that read this blog, I know what it is like when your candidate is on the ropes and most likely not getting back up (not that I ever count a Clinton out).
It feels like getting a root canal while passing a kidney stone while an eagle claws up your ass. SANS BOOZE.
The fact that PL can be mid-swallow on that pill and write this post shows a tremendous amount of class. I think the gloating should take a rest for a bit, is all.
But, you guys are all BFF, texting all the time so whatever.
i’ve been on the fence since forever with this election, but last night was a turning point for me. i watched hillary speak for about 40 seconds before i hit un-mute and in the silence i imagined that she was conceding. my reaction was…happiness. i’ve understood the fight and passion up until now. now it’s time to salvage the party and the general. let’s get after the old man, eh?
keep itpt, but make the type larger…..and make the pie higher.
you can double blog PL, you have 2 hands!!!
/double innnuendo?
// nah….
Re: 28. Groaning
Awww, that’s sweet.
(Pssst. Just call DT “Scooter.” That’ll get her. But don’t say you heard it from me.)
Re: 24. treehugger
I love the critical undertone every time someone mentions Obama’s support among “educated elites.”
So … it’s bad to be supported by smart people? Who knew!
Re: 28. Groaning
We’re totally BFF, like, 24-7. ILMSPL.
Rest assured, Groaning, I know what it’s like when your candidate is on the ropes and circling the drain so quickly there is no way in hell s/he’s ever coming back up. She gloated then, and I’m delighted to gloat now. She understands.
Don’t you, PL?
I SAID TELL THE NICE MAN YOU UNDERSTAND.
Re: 31. Don’t Mess w/ Pink
I use an NPR tote bag for dove hunting. Its because I’m a 1st generation elite. Now, if I just had me one of them elite bank accounts I might could get a new couch for the porch.
PL, regarding the Obama WJClinton ticket, I think SNL said it best 4 years ago when Darrell Hammond playing Clinton suggested himself as Kerry’s VP candidate:
“I’ll put the VICE back into Vice-President.”
http://www.inthepinktexas.com
Re: 33. double tonic
I have no idea what you’re talking about, Scooter.
C’mon. Quitting is for Girls!
Actually, I’m beginning to feel the same way. That this has gone on too long and too far. And, despite Hillary being my candidate of choice, it is really her I think (I think?) should bow out at this time.
I can’t explain it, because I think she is more qualified, I think she would achieve more, but lately, the old school campaigning and fight to the bitter end approach has left a bad taste in my mouth.
Somehow, it appears that Obama tries to rise above it, and Hillary continues to play that way - as if she has something to prove about how to campaign. You can’t blame her given all she has gone through - but then again, maybe you can.
Perhaps this is naive and McCain will run all over Obama, but I can’t help wanting to take the high road. And losing gracefully is so much better than the alternative, isn’t it?
Re: 36. Pink Lady
Hey PL, blow up my beeper later and we can text all about how Scooter thought she was your BFF.
/joking
It’s time for HRC to take the high road, find a way to end this in a way that lets her save face and brings her supporters neatly into the fold. She solely has the power in her hands to make or break a Democratic victory in November, by stepping aside now and backing the candidate we all recognize will be the eventual nominee, Senator Obama.
Re: 33. double tonic
“I SAID TELL THE NICE MAN YOU UNDERSTAND.”
I’m spittin’ latte here.
So, hopefully no one here is actually reading Poll Dancing, because I couldn’t have been farther from choosing the winning numbers on last night’s primaries.
Sheez, I only gave HRC a 12 point spread in IN! WTF, HRC!? This is my chance to win a subscription to TM, and you give me a two-point win!!?? Fuck it. I’m out. I hereby officially resign my position as HRC’s number one supporter… PL, it’s all you. I’m going to dig up LBJ and take him stumping.
*
I am with Hillary as long as she is in this. I figure she knows more about the game than I do. Don’t count us out, just because everyone else seems to, Pink.
Re: 39. Don’t Mess w/ Pink
Obama lovers don’t SPIT latte, they SIP latte.
Re: 41. double tonic
Obama lovers don’t sip LATTE, they sip the collected tears of indigenous rainforest infants.
Re: 42. JohnCornyn’sBoxTurtle
Orphan babies! Yum!
http://www.showlush.com
Re: 20. Lurkette
Really? You’ve known me long enough that you should know when I’m joking, too, I think.
And yes, seriously, DT. I was sitting right there, and PL and I were exchanging a couple of texts ourselves.
Re: 40. slave to the state
She also knows more about economics than economists and more about math than mathematicians. :)
She is VERY savvy politically, except when it comes to herself and her husband and then she has a tin ear. So deferring to her seems to be like riding shotgun with crash test dummies because they’ve been through all this before.
PL, I think I figured it out. The October surprise is that Obama fathered a black gay Muslim child.
I seem to have struck a nerve. You might want to think about why you take every negative comment personally. Your support of your candidate is admirable, but your style is abrasive and alienating. Continue to fire back at me all you want. I’m certainly not looking to become anyone’s “BFF.”
“He has the college-educated, Gucci- wearing, latte-drinking vote, the young vote, and the black vote.”
He also has the tree huggin’, love makin’, pro choicen, gay weddin’, barefootin’, folk-singin’, porn watchin’, lazyass hippies like me.
/Gracias a Todd Snider
http://www.inthepinktexas.com
Re: 48. Prince Royal
I’m starting to believe that Obama is actually… McCain’s illegitimate son!
/you ain’t seen scandal yet
http://www.showlush.com
Re: 51. Pink Lady
What is this? Star Wars?
http://www.inthepinktexas.com
Re: 52. lush
Isn’t it always?
Re: 51. Pink Lady
wow! WOW!!!!!
you may be on to something.
wonder if his jammies have yodas and shit…..
Re: 54. potted meat
I believe those are “Damn Jammies!”
I will get funnier, and write more posts for you. Don’t merge the two blogs. Unless, of course, we all get to come hang out at the new office. :)
Nice post, Pink Lady.
I think Hillary is less than 50-50 on VP. And I don’t see her getting Leader. Robert Byrd, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry…the list goes on…wouldn’t depose Reid, plus with a pickup of a bunch of new seats on the way, she won’t have leverage. Leaders leave when they’re losing, not when they’re winning. Hey, I’ll do a post on it.
You’re great. Keep this blog.
Re: 55. Credentials
oh, how I long for the salad days………
/when we had no crawfish, we ate sand
Re: 49. 19th & 21st
“I seem to have struck a nerve.”
Calling people gloating self righteous condescending republicans tends to do that ass*hole.
http://www.inthepinktexas.com
Re: 58. Lefty
Hey, hey, HEY… easy there, Tex.
Don’t give up on her yet……the campaign is serious about winning Oregon!
She’s the energizer bunny on steriods!
http://hillbuzz.blogspot.com:80/2008/05/50-elected-officials-from-across-oregon.html
Re: 58. Lefty
Anyone who compares the Obama supporters of today to Tom Delay’s crowd is just being ornery. What I’m fascinated by is how so many people are now back to comparing BO to JFK, etc. The herd mentality of politics can be trying.
One very fair comparison between the Repubs of 02 and the Obama campaign of today is that both are winners at out fundraising the other side. The brilliance of Obama is taking the online tools Dean was looking at and making them really, really work.
republicans are about stuff, democrats are about people.
If BO is bringing some of the ‘collecters'’ into the world of real compassion, then good.
But I’m another hippie dude whom is a fan of Obama, though with lot’s of reservations.
If Hillary is going nukular, she is going to do it within 10 days, because she is looking very albatross like.
Personally I’d like her to keep going, if she could quit being such a shit .
I’m still holding out for Ron Paul, dreamer that I am.
Re: 59. Pink Lady
My point which I expressed perhaps with a little too much subtlety, is that I think it is disingenuous that the commenter starts out with some inflammatory name calling and then is shocked (Shocked!) when people are inflamed by the name calling.
Reminds me of all the other disingenuous Hillary supporters.
/See what I did there?
//Strikes a nerve doesn’t it?
http://www.inthepinktexas.com
Re: 63. Lefty
You’re sleep-deprived.
Re: 61. The Other Guy
I think one of the key differences in the candidate’s fund-raising has been Obama’s better management of small contributors but lets not kid ourselves that his funding is all from individuals going online and donating $20.
Obama’s top 5 contributors:
Goldman Sachs $544,481
University of California $371,266
Ubs Ag $363,257
JPMorgan Chase & Co $353,808
Citigroup Inc $331,946
Hillary’s top 5 contributors
DLA Piper $505,200
Goldman Sachs $445,350
Citigroup Inc $406,752
Morgan Stanley $402,845
EMILY’s List $323,567
So whoever wins it looks like we’re going to be getting whatever Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, JP Morgan, UBS and Morgan Stanley want… except of course Obama is above that sort of politics.
Re: 65. Jimbo
So what’s the balance between small and large donors in terms of %? Just curious.
At least they’re not Bush Rangers, Super Rangers, and Pioneers.
yep, wonder how many of those ranges and pioneers were on that submarine that killed a bunch in the Pacific, on that show off rise from the deep.
Kind of got swept under the rug, because’ 911 changed everything’………
Other than
Ron Paul, you are gonna keep having the money dictate the policy, as much as I want the O man to be real.
Maybe he will tell all the bankers to shove it up their asses…and help airline WORKERS instead of airline stockholders and execs, and help homeOWNERS instead of the fucking interest leaches. and on, and on ,and on……
gd, now I’m mad again……
/not really
Re: 65. Jimbo
Barack has Google as a bundler, too. I’m telling you. The cool factor.
Re: 66. treehugger
I pulled those stats from opensecrets.org.
In terms of individual contributor’s Hillary’s contributors are as follows:
$200-$499 23014 $5,932,462.00
$500-$999 14963 $8,320,689.00
$1000-$2300 19255 $24,985,233.00
$2300+ 21606 $69,167,976.00
$4600+ 6955 $32,590,611.00
Barack’s are:
$200-$499 39978 $10,300,027.00
$500-$999 26435 $14,750,754.00
$1000-$2300 25187 $33,007,090.00
$2300+ 23414 $61,642,421.00
$4600+ 2292 $10,913,632.00
So basically 90% of Hillary’s funding comes from people donating $1000 or more whereas 81% of Barack’s comes from people at the $1000 or more level. Hillary definitely has more at the very highest level and Barack has moe at the bottom tier but that’s only an extra $5M.
Overall both candidates are still raising the bulk of their money at the level where people are giving because they have a special interest.
As an interesting but not surprising aside, the industry donating most to both candidates, lawyers, in the range of $15M to each candidate. But of course that wouldn’t be lobbying money would it …….
Re: 69. Jimbo
39978-23014=16964
26435-14963=11472
25187-19255=5932
23414-21606=1808
2292-6955=-4663
Interesting. So Obama leads in every category except donations over $4600.
Who knew that working, hard-working Americans, white Americans were able to give that much?
Re: 70. JohnCornyn’sBoxTurtle
I’m never going to try and deny that Hillary has lined up to take all the lobby money she can. All I’m thinking is that it looks a lot like Obama has been doing pretty much the same whilst making a campaign talking point our of saying he’s not doing it. Or are there really 23,414 people out there who like him so much that they are just going to give more than $2300 and not expect anything in return?
Thanks heavens someone is injecting the honesty back in to politics
Except it doesn’t look like Obama “has been doing pretty much the same thing.”
Do you really think that giving $2300 is going to get you something in return from the president? Seriously?
Re: 72. JohnCornyn’sBoxTurtle
Lapel pin?
Re: 71. Jimbo
I don’t think they’re giving *more* than $2300. Isn’t $2300 the limit for individual contributions?
Re: 73. Groaning
*applause*