On Wednesday when I came into the office, smiling and whistling “Hail to the Chief,” I told Evan that we should do a podcast together discussing the Pennsylvania primary. Not even looking up from his laptop, where he was furiously googling the latest poll numbers in order to tell me that Hillary only won by 9.9999 percent so HA, he begrudgingly agreed.

I spent the rest of the day researching the campaign, taking copious notes, and stealing talking points from a variety of pundits. I drank tea with lemon and gargled salt water. I practiced my breathing techniques, and refused to talk to Mr. PL last night so I could “rest my voice,” but, really, we’re still not on speaking terms.

I get a call from Evan this morning at, like, 8AM.

Me: Who the f*uck would call me this early?!
Evan: It’s your boss.
Me: I’ve been up for hours thinking about how to improve the website.
Evan: I hope it doesn’t involve the word ‘labia.’
Me: I have no idea what you’re talking about (deletes post).
Evan: I’m doing a podcast with TIME’s Karen Tumulty on Tuesday’s primary in 10 minutes. Are you in the office?
Me: Yes! No. DAMMIT.
Evan: We’ll do one another time.
Me: Wait a minute! Let me finish…

Click.

Here’s the podcast.

And an excerpt:

Evan: In a number of states, you’d think as a Democrat, you need to win in the primary, and that you’d need to win in the fall, Obama has not been able to overtake her and all of the Obama people think the Clinton people are making too much of it, there is something to this argument that she’s won all the big states, or the majority of them.

Tumulty: That’s right, and these are the states that have basically the white working-class vote — this is the classic Reagan Democrat… who’ve been peeled off by the Republicans slowly but surely over the last 40 years. There’s a new study out that says… for Democrats to win the presidential election, they don’t have to outright win the white working-class vote, but there are so many of these people concentrated in so many swing states that the Democrats can’t lose by 10 percent or less, or they lose the election.